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[Session] Readings from The Island by Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Amaro, Chapter 8, pp. 151-154. Read by Ajahn Amaro:
Suttas: MN 22.36; SN 12.64; Snp 752-3; MN 62.17; SN 4.19.
1. “What is the Pāli term that [the Buddha] uses for volitional formations [in SN 12.64]?” Answered by Ajahn Amaro and Ajahn Pasanno. [Pāli] [Volitional formations] // [Volition] [Nutriment]
3. Reflections by Ajahn Amaro and Ajahn Pasanno about the Dhamma and Vinaya aspects of dependence. [Dhamma] [Vinaya] [Dependence] // [Middle Path] [Four Noble Truths]
Sutta: Snp 752-753: “There is danger in dependence.” [Clinging]
Quote: “The Dhamma is all about letting go, and the Vinaya is all about holding on. When you figure out how these work together, you’ll be fine.” — Ajahn Chah. Quoted by Ajahn Amaro. [Ajahn Chah] [Ajahn Sumedho] [Relinquishment]
4. “In [MN 62], the Buddha goes through the elements. Here (MN 62.17) it says that space is not established anywhere. Do you remember what he said for earth and water?” Answered by Ajahn Amaro and Ajahn Pasanno. [Elements] // [Equanimity]
6. Recollection: Ajahn Chah’s advice for establishing mindfulness in the midst of strong emotions. Recounted by Ajahn Amaro and Ajahn Pasanno. [Ajahn Chah] [Mindfulness] [Emotion] // [Ajahn Amaro] [Food] [Suffering] [Conditionality] [Equanimity] [Mindfulness of body] [Greed]
Story: Ajahn Chah eats 37 mangoes.
7. “How does pīti relate to the fulfillment of desire?” Answered by Ajahn Amaro and Ajahn Pasanno. [Rapture ] [Benefit/gratification] [Happiness] // [Unification] [Jhāna] [Craving] [Relinquishment] [Addiction]
1. Readings from The Island by Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Amaro, Chapter 8, pp. 154-156. Read by Ajahn Amaro:
The Sixth Patriarch’s Dharma Jewel Platform Sutra, Ch 1.
Vajra Sūtra, Ch 10, “The Adornment of Pure Lands.”
3. “Is there a difference between citta and poo roo?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Amaro. [Heart/mind ] [Knowing itself] [Nature of mind] // [Thai] [Language] [Proliferation] [Dhamma] [Buddha] [Ajahn Amaro] [Dhamma books]
Quote: “If there’s anything left, just throw it to the dogs.” — Ajahn Chah. Quoted by Ajahn Amaro. [Ajahn Chah] [Relinquishment]
5. Reading from The Island by Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Amaro, Chapter 9, pp. 157-158. Read by Ajahn Amaro:
Straight from the Heart by Ajahn Mahā Boowa, p. 228
[Session] Readings by Ajahn Amaro:
The Island by Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Amaro, Chapter 9, pp. 158-165:
Suttas: Ud 8.1; Ud 8.3, Iti 43; Ud 8.4; Milindapañha 324; Milindapañha 327-328; SN 1.1.
The Magic of the Mind by Bhikkhu Ñāṇananda, pp. 58-60.
Ācariya Nāgārjuna, Mūlamadyamaka-kārika, Ch 25.
Ajahn Chah, personal letter to Ajahn Sumedho.
“What is Contemplation?”, Collected Teachings of Ajahn Chah, pp. 475-479.
Sutta: Ud 1.10: Bāhiya, quoted in The Island by Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Amaro, p. 65.
1. Background of “What is Contemplation?” [Ajahn Chah] [Ajahn Jāgaro] [Wat Pah Nanachat]
3. “For good or right contemplation, do you need some amount of samādhi so that it won’t proliferate in thinking?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Amaro. [Discernment] [Concentration] [Proliferation] // [Thai Forest Tradition]
4. “Are mindfulness of mind and contemplating a subject such as impermanence two different approaches?” Answered by Ajahn Amaro and Ajahn Pasanno. [Mindfulness of mind] [Recollection] // [Ajahn Chah] [Language] [Directed thought and evaluation] [Appropriate attention] [Lawfulness]
Reference: “What is Contemplation?”, Collected Teachings of Ajahn Chah, pp. 475-479.
Quote: “Your best contemplation is quite thoughtless.” — Ajahn Pasanno. [Tranquility]
Reflection by Ajahn Pasanno: Yoniso manasikāra is a way of paying attention to the process of experience. [Pāli] [Characteristics of existence]
6. “Can you explain what Ajahn Mahā Boowa means by ‘the essence of a level of being’ in Straight from the Heart by Ajahn Mahā Boowa, p. 228, quoted in The Island by Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Amaro, p. 158?” Answered by Ajahn Amaro and Ajahn Pasanno. [Ajahn Mahā Boowa] [Becoming] // [Clinging] [Birth] [Fetters] [Restlessness and worry] [Conceit] [Knowing itself]
7. Comment: The translation of the Nibbāna Sutta (Ud 8.3) in The Island renders paññāyati as ‘discerned;’ the Amaravati Chanting Book, p. 49 translates it as ‘possible.’ Contributed by Ajahn Kaccāna. [Discernment] [Translation] [Chanting]
Response by Ajahn Amaro and Ajahn Pasanno.
Quote: “If you can’t go forward, if you can’t go backwards, if you can’t stand still, where do you go?” — Ajahn Chah. Quoted by Ajahn Amaro and Ajahn Pasanno. [Ajahn Chah] [Ajahn Sumedho] [Koan]
Sutta: Ud 8.1.
[Session] Readings:
The Island by Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Amaro, Chapter 15, pp. 266-270:
Suttas: SN 51.15; MN 106.10-15; MN 1.50.
AN 9.36: Jhāna Sutta.
1. Reflection: The Buddha described his teachings as a vīriyavāda, a teaching that requires effort (AN 3.137). [Energy ] [Right Effort] // [Craving] [Self-identity view] [Discernment] [Relinquishment] [Four Noble Truths] [Direct experience]
3. “When you contemplate some situation, as long as there is still some tension or some feeling, does that mean that you did not come to the right understanding of it, but once you understand the situation, there would be no unpleasant, painful feelings about it?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Amaro. [Pain] [Recollection] [Discernment] [Cessation of Suffering] // [Defilements of insight] [Clinging] [Suffering] [Grief]
Sutta: SN 36.6: Simile of the two arrows. [Similes]
Suttas: MN 53.5; AN 10.67: The Buddha stretches his back. [Buddha/Biography]
Sutta: SN 47.14: “The assembly appears empty to me now.” [Great disciples] [Death] [Characteristics of existence]
4. Reflections on MN 106.13: “This is personality as far as personality extends.” [Clinging] [Self-identity view] // [Concentration] [Formless attainments] [Relinquishment]
5. “Is it correct that if something happened before and I remember it, it means there is some clinging?” [Memory] [Clinging] // [Mindfulness] [Learning]
Sutta: SN 48.9.3: Mindfulness means remembering things that happened long ago.
6. “The abandonment of all path factors and saṅkhāras—how much autonomy is there and how much is a ripening and falling away and paying attention?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Amaro. [Relinquishment] [Volition] // [Patience] [Truth] [Kamma] [Conditionality]
7. “When the mind feels quiet and peaceful, but there’s still something niggling away that doesn’t feel quite right, how do you work with that?” [Tranquility] [Suffering] // [Patience] [Truth] [Self-reliance] [Conditionality] [Faith] [Perfections]
Recollection: It was frustrating being a disciple of Ajahn Chah and going to him with all your problems. He would just tell us to be patient. [Ajahn Chah]
8. Quote: “Patience isn’t a strategy; it’s an abiding place.” — Ajahn Sucitto. [Ajahn Sucitto] [Patience]
Response by Ajahn Pasanno.
Sutta: Dhp 184.
9. Reading and reflection on AN 9.36: “This is peace, this is exquisite ...” (quoted in The Island p. 270). [Recollection/Peace ] // [Deathless] [Volitional formations] [Aggregates] [Clinging] [Cessation of Suffering] [Nibbāna] [Non-return]
[Session] Readings:
The Island by Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Amaro, Chapter 15, pp. 270-274:
Suttas: SN 1.1; MN 112.4, .6, .8 & .10; AN 10.7.
“The Four Noble Truths,” p. 333 in Food for the Heart (Wisdom Publications) by Ajahn Chah (commercial).
1. Story: A Tibetan monk expresses appreciation for Ajahn Chah’s 1979 visit to Manjushri Institute. [Manjushri Institute] [Ajahn Chah] [Gratitude] // [Ajahn Pasanno] [Tudong]
2. Comment by Ajahn Kaccāna: It’s wonderful to hear Ajahn Chah’s brutal honesty about what it’s like being a teacher. [Ajahn Chah] [Teaching Dhamma]
Reference: Food for the Heart (Wisdom Publications) by Ajahn Chah (commercial) p. 333.
Response by Ajahn Pasanno.
3. “When I heard that Ajahn Amaro spent two years [not lying down], I was very impressed. But thinking about how Luang Por Sumedho watched Ajahn Amaro do this for two years and then saying, ‘Ah, finally you’re stopping!’ Why do you let people make their own experience?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Amaro. [Ajahn Amaro] [Sitter's practice] [Ajahn Sumedho] [Teaching Dhamma]
4. Reflections by Ajahn Amaro and Ajahn Pasanno comparing the diversity of expression in the Six Sets of Six (MN 148) to the Mahāgosiṅga Sutta (MN 32). [Great disciples] [Buddha/Biography] // [Determination]
Sutta: SN 14.15: Students gravitate towards the personality of the teacher. [Personality]
5. Comment: [This discussion of ‘Nibbāna is the cessation of becoming’ (AN 10.7)] reminds me of the last testament of a well-known teacher: ‘Rest in purity and evenness and do something for the benefit of others.’ [Nibbāna] [Equanimity] [Compassion]
Response by Ajahn Pasanno. [Simplicity]
Reading: “The Safest Way to Dwell,” Gifts He Left Behind by Ajahn Dune, p. 102. [Ajahn Dune]
Quote: “As for me, I dwell with knowing. ... Knowing is the normality of mind that’s empty, bright, pure, that has stopped fabricating, stopped searching, stopped all mental motions—having nothing, not attached to anything at all.” [Knowing itself] [Cessation]
[Session] Readings:
The Island by Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Amaro, Chapter 15, pp. 274-277:
Suttas: AN 8.30; SN 2.5; AN 3.83; SN 52.9; MN 123.22; MN 122.4, .6 & .7.
Sutta: MN 123: Wonderful and Marvelous.
1. Reflection: The result of the training is that one is freed from greed, hatred, and delusion. [Vinaya] [Unwholesome Roots] // [Unskillful qualities] [Liberation] [Virtue]
2. “When Ajahn Chah reached full liberation, did he wait two years just to be sure?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Amaro. [Ajahn Chah] [Liberation] // [Delusion] [Doubt]
Simile from Ajahn Chah: “To me that’s just the chattering of the birds.” Related by Ajahn Amaro. [Similes]
Reflection by Ajahn Pasanno: People get infatuated and enthralled by attainment. [Craving] [Meditation/Results] [Relinquishment]
Quote: “[Ajahn Chah’s] duty was to try to teach people Dhamma, as opposed to being something for anybody.” — Ajahn Pasanno. [Teaching Dhamma] [Becoming]
3. “You talked about the end of striving, the end of straining, the end of forcing just now. Yesterday you were talking about standing on one side and neither straining nor moving back. It seems to be a bit of a paradox. Do we strain now and stop when we get there?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Amaro. [Right Effort] [Energy] // [Middle Path] [Learning] [Aspects of Understanding]
Sutta: MN 39: Don’t be content with wholesome states.
Sutta: AN 2.5: The qualities that allowed the Buddha to realize full Awakening.
4. “How did the Buddha deal with this issue of people becoming enlightened contemporaneous with him and getting a little bit crazy? His contemporaries also had siddhis [psychic powers] and practices? How did he distinguish between Buddhist and non-Buddhist attainments?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Amaro. [Buddha/Biography] [Liberation] [Delusion] [Psychic powers] // [Cessation of Suffering] [Self-identity view] [Relinquishment] [Becoming]
Sutta: AN 6.48: A proper declaration of full knowledge does not include a sense of me and mine.
Vinaya: Mahāvagga 1.38: Rules for wanderers of other sects wanting to become bhikkhus.
5. “I was trying to imagine what it would be like to look into the world through the eyes of an arahant. Something like looking through The Matrix or looking at people as children ...” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Amaro. [Arahant]
Quote: “What is the mind of an arahant like?”—“Only compassion.” — Ajahn Mahā Boowa. Quoted by Ajahn Pasanno. [Ajahn Mahā Boowa] [Compassion]
Reflection by Ajahn Pasanno: Ajahn Chah’s form of compassion could be pretty demanding sometimes. [Ajahn Chah] [Fierce/direct teaching] [Patience] [Humor]
Reflection by Ajahn Kaccāna: From the perspective of an arahant, what drives the entire world is feeble (MN 112.6). [Aggregates] [Dispassion]
6. Story: A woman has a dream that she will give birth to an old monk and keeps the precepts easily during her pregnancy. [Dreams] [Birth] [Rebirth] [Five Precepts]
7. “Ajahn Amaro is invited to give a two-minute Dhamma talk at 10 Downing Street on Visākha Pūjā.” Answered by Ajahn Amaro and Ajahn Pasanno. [Ajahn Amaro] [Teaching Dhamma] [Politics and society] [Festival days] // [Christianity]
Sutta: MN 123: Wonderful and Marvelous.
10. Recollections of Ajahn Paññānanda’s quality of internal seclusion. [Ajahn Paññānanda ] [Seclusion] [Emptiness] // [Western Ajahn Chah monasteries] [Teaching Dhamma] [Dhamma recordings] [Media] [Self-identity view]
11. Comment: I’m struck that very often in the sutras, the Buddha himself does not speak. A question arises, someone else answers it, and at the end he just says, ‘Yes, that’s how it is.’ [Sutta] [Buddha/Biography] [Questions] [Seclusion]
Response by Ajahn Pasanno. [Personality] [Concentration]
[Session] Readings from The Island by Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Amaro, Chapter 12, pp. 198-203:
Buddhadāsa Bhikkhu, Heartwood from the Bodhi Tree, pp. 51-2.
Suttas: SN 35.85; SN 41.7; DN 16.2.25.
Commentary: Visuddhimagga 21.70 (Path of Purification by Bhikkhu Ñāṇamoli, p. 686).
1. Story: Ajahn Buddhadāsa gives up formal studies and returns to the forest and the suttas. [Ajahn Buddhadāsa ] [Learning] [Commentaries] [Sutta] // [Spiritual traditions] [Geography/Thailand]
2. “The other characteristics like impermanence, dukkha, anattā—are these considered to be the third quenching elements?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Amaro. [Characteristics of existence] [Cessation] // [Not-self] [Emptiness] [Ajahn Buddhadāsa]
Reference: Heartwood of the Bodhi Tree by Ajahn Buddhadasā, quoted in The Island by Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Amaro, pp. 198-199.
Sutta: SN 35.85: “The world is empty.” Quoted in The Island by Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Amaro, p. 200.
3. “The connection between tathatā and suññatā—would you like to expound a bit more?” [Suchness] [Emptiness ] // [Proliferation] [Relinquishment] [Pāli] [Conventions] [Aggregates] [Ajahn Buddhadāsa] [Characteristics of existence] [Self-identity view]
Quote: “It’s just that much.” — Ajahn Chah. [Ajahn Chah]
Sutta: MN 72.20: “... unfathomable like the great ocean.” [Buddha]
Sutta: Ud 8.3: “There is the unborn, the unoriginated, the uncreated, the unformed.” (Chanting Book Translation).
Reference: The Poetics of Space by Gaston Bachelard.
4. Comment: When I’ve heard the phrase ‘abiding in emptiness’ used, it hasn’t been a reification; it has been exactly what the sutta (SN 35.85) says, abiding in a place that’s empty of self. [Emptiness] [Not-self]
Response by Ajahn Pasanno. [Theravāda]
6. Story: Ajahn Pasanno comes across handwritten notes about Ajahn Chah’s teachings in the library at Wat Pleng. Told by Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Amaro. [Ajahn Pasanno] [Ajahn Chah] [Wat Phleng Vipassanā]
Quote: “What is the essence of the Buddha’s teachings?”—“Is this a big piece of wood or a small piece of wood?” — Ajahn Chah. Quoted by Ajahn Pasanno. [Perception] [Conventions] [Desire]
Sutta: SN 41.7: “Passion is a maker of measurement.”
7. Reflections by Ajahn Amaro and Ajahn Pasanno on the Buddha’s experience of chronic pain in DN 16.2.25. [Buddha/Biography] [Pain] // [Suffering] [Equanimity]
Suttas: DN 33; MN 53; AN 10.67-68: The Buddha stretches his back.
8. “Could you explain again how anicca is related to signlessness? (Visuddhimagga 21.70; Path of Purification by Bhikkhu Ñāṇamoli, p. 686; The Island by Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Amaro, p. 203)” [Impermanence ] [Nimitta] // [Proliferation] [Conventions]
9. “It’s interesting that the Buddha usually speaks of wholesome qualities in the negative, like non-greed, non-hatred, non-delusion. Even the precepts are phrased in the negative. Could you say that’s pointing towards emptiness?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Amaro. [Skillful qualities] [Precepts] [Emptiness] // [Western psychology] [Language] [Teaching Dhamma]
10. “Of these three pairs (impermanence and signlessness; unsatisfactoriness and desirelessness; selflessness and emptiness; Visuddhimagga 21.70, quoted in The Island by Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Amaro, p. 686), is it skillful to direct the mind towards one or will one appear naturally?” [Characteristics of existence] [Insight meditation] [Directed thought and evaluation]
Quote: “An insight into one will be an insight into all three.”
11. “I’m curious about the timeline when the Buddha established the Five Precepts for householders.” Answered by Ajahn Amaro. [Buddha/Biography] [Five Precepts] [Lay life] // [Vinaya]
Vinaya: Mahāvagga 2.1: The Buddha establishes the Uposatha observance for the Saṅgha. [Lunar observance days] [Saṅgha]
Sutta: AN 8.41: Observing the Eight Precepts on Uposatha days. [Eight Precepts]
Sutta: AN 8.39: The eight streams of merit. [Merit] [Three Refuges] [Generosity]
Follow-up: “Did the ritual of requesting the Five Precepts originate in the time of the Buddha?” Answered by Ajahn Amaro and Ajahn Pasanno. [Ceremony/ritual] [Culture/Thailand] [Tipiṭaka]
12. “The eight training precepts that some monastic traditions ask you to take as a lay person when you are reading suttas or attending Dhamma classes—do different Theravāda forms include this?” Answered by Ajahn Amaro and Ajahn Pasanno. [Lay life] [Precepts] [Bhante Gunaratana] // [Culture/Sri Lanka] [Culture/Thailand] [Right Speech]
[Session] Reading from The Island by Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Amaro, Chapter 12, pp. 203-207:
Sutta: MN 121.
1. “When the Buddha had a backache and the only time he gets relief is in the signless concentration of mind (DN 16.2.25), there still seems to be that non-emptiness connected with the six sense bases (MN 121.11-13) ...” [Buddha/Biography] [Pain] [Concentration] [Emptiness] [Sense bases] // [Body/form]
2. “Have you found the instructions for contemplating the formless realms helpful in your own practice?” [Formless attainments] [Ajahn Pasanno] // [Characteristics of existence] [Aggregates]
3. “Is my understanding correct that everything is empty, nothing is there from the horses to the ... (MN 121)? When the body dies, and with it the senses, do [the body and the senses] disappear in the same way the horses disappear [in MN 121]?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno, Ajahn Amaro and Ajahn Kaccāna. [Emptiness] [Death] [Body/form] [Sense bases] // [Outflows] [Rebirth] [Buddha] [Aggregates]
Sutta: MN 72.16: Aggivaccagotta Sutta.
Sutta: Snp 5.7: Upasīva’s Question.
Sutta: AN 2.25: Statements whose meaning should and should not be drawn out.
4. Recollection: Ajahn Chah would often make the distinction of holding but not clinging. Recounted by Ajahn Amaro and Ajahn Pasanno. [Ajahn Chah] [Clinging ] // [Relinquishment] [Emptiness] [Everyday life] [Sense bases] [Self-identity view]
Reference: Collected Teachings of Ajahn Chah, p. 583: “Sense Contact: The Fountain of Wisdom.” [Discernment]
Sutta: DN 16.2.25: The Buddha compares his body to an old cart. [Buddha/Biography] [Pain]
Suttas: MN 35.5; AN 10.67: The Buddha stretches his back.
5. Comment: “The principle of letting go is that nothing is destroyed ... we are not buying into the future.” [Relinquishment] [Clinging] [Buddha] [Death]
Response by Ajahn Amaro. [Stream entry] [Aggregates]
Quote: “A samaṇa is one with no future.” — Ajahn Chah. Quoted by Ajahn Pasanno. [Ajahn Chah] [Perception of a samaṇa] [Time]
6. “In animitta samādhi, is the mind one-pointed or just sharp? Does it fall into the world of jhāna?” [Concentration] [Nimitta] [Unification] [Jhāna]
Sutta: SN 48.9.4: Unification of mind with relinquishment as its object. [Relinquishment]
Quote: “The point that includes.” — Ajahn Sumedho. Quoted by Ajahn Amaro. [Ajahn Sumedho] [Spaciousness]
Teaching from Ajahn Chah: “Being Dhamma.” Related by Ajahn Amaro and Ajahn Pasanno. [Ajahn Chah] [Dhamma] [Knowing itself] [Not-self] [Self-identity view]
Sutta: MN 95.20: The sequence of hearing, understanding, practicing, and realizing Dhamma.
Reference: Being Dharma by Ajahn Chah (commercial).
[Session] Readings:
The Island by Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Amaro, Chapter 12, pp. 207-212:
Suttas: SN 20.7; SN 55.53; SN 22.95; Dhp 46; Dhp 170.
The Island by Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Amaro, Chapter 11, pp. 191:
Sutta: Snp 1118-9.
1. Reflection: When Ajahn Chah went to America, he emphasized the importance of sīla. [Ajahn Chah] [Culture/West] [Virtue] // [Insight Meditation Society]
Story: Jack Kornfield asks Ajahn Chah what he thinks about Buddhist teachings coming to the West. Ajahn Chah replies, “I haven’t seen any Buddhism yet.” Told by Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Amaro. [Jack Kornfield]
Story: Ajahn Chah discerns that Jack Kornfield isn’t accurately translating his teachings about sīla. Told by Ajahn Amaro. [Joseph Kappel] [Translation]
Reflections by Ajahn Amaro and Ajahn Pasanno about SN 20.7 and poetic and literary expressions of Dhamma. [Teaching Dhamma] [Verses] [Great disciples] [Isan]
Sutta: SN 8: Vaṅgīsasaṁyutta.
2. Reflections on the similes for the insubstantiality of the aggregates in SN 22.95. [Aggregates ] [Similes] [Emptiness] // [Body/form] [Feeling] [Perception] [Volitional formations] [Consciousness] [Self-identity view] [Disenchantment] [Dispassion] [Abhidhamma]
3. “How does [disenchantment towards the aggregates] square with taking delight in the natural world?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Amaro. [Disenchantment] [Happiness] [Culture/Natural environment] // [Dispassion] [Beauty] [Culture/West] [Clinging] [Judgementalism]
Sutta: Thag 18.1.12: Mahākassapa’s verses about nature. [Great disciples]
Quote: “The more completely the heart lets go of the world, the more it can really enjoy it.” — Ajahn Amaro. [Relinquishment]
Recollection: Ajahn Chah had tremendous joy but no illusions about the world around him. [Ajahn Chah]
5. “Everything arises from emptiness, right?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Amaro. [Emptiness ] // [Conditionality]
Quote: “There is no discernable beginning to this world (SN 15.1); what we’re looking for is an ending to it.” — Ajahn Pasanno. [Nature of the cosmos] [Cessation]
Sutta: AN 4.77: Imponderables.
6. “Wasn’t there a teaching that everything arises from interest and there is a sequence that ends in Nibbāna?” Answered by Ajahn Amaro and Ajahn Pasanno. [Desire] [Conditionality] [Nibbāna]
Sutta: AN 10.58: “Rooted in interest are all things. ...”
7. “In what ways does engaging with the natural world which is always changing contribute to renunciation and realization? In the modern world, such conditions are becoming rarer. What is the answer?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno, Ajahn Kaccāna and Ajahn Amaro. [Culture/Natural environment ] [Impermanence] [Thai Forest Tradition] [Culture/West] // [Characteristics of existence] [Spiritual friendship] [Seclusion] [Insight meditation] [Ascetic practices]
Suttas: SN 47.6-7: The Four Foundations of Mindfulness are one’s ancestral territory.
Recollection: The austerity of the early days of Wat Pah Pong highlighted the seeking of security. Recounted by Ajahn Pasanno. [Wat Pah Pong] [Ajahn Chah] [Food]
8. Reflections by Ajahn Amaro and Ajahn Pasanno: The meaning of the word ascetic and the nature of forests. [Ascetic practices] [Etymology] // [Recreation/leisure/sport] [Culture/Natural environment] [Culture/West] [Beauty] [Elders' Council]
[Session] Readings:
The Island by Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Amaro, Chapter 15, pp. 277-278:
Suttas: AN 4.96 & .99; SN 43.1.
The Island by Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Amaro, Chapter 16, pp. 279-281:
Suttas: SN 56.35; SN 45.179; SN 45.180.
Vinaya: Mahāvagga 1.7.
1. Comment: The gist of [AN 4.96 and AN 4.99] all seem to be about refraining from; the way to really benefit yourself and others is not to do. When you hear it, it feels quite negative. [Generosity] [Precepts] [Sense restraint]
Response by Ajahn Pasanno. [Personal presence] [Compassion] [Buddha/Biography] [Teachers]
Sutta: Iti 22: “Do not look down on merit.” [Merit] [Happiness]
Sutta: MN 21.20: The Simile of the Saw.
2. Comment: I’ve often felt like I’ve made this deal (SN 56.35). [Suffering]
Response by Ajahn Pasanno: It’s important to bring the suffering into the heart so that it is a catalyst for change. [Spiritual urgency]
3. “Is it possible to repeat the preparatory stages [before the Buddha teaches the Four Noble Truths] (Mahāvagga 1.7.5)?” [Gradual Teaching ] [Four Noble Truths] // [Generosity] [Virtue] [Deva] [Kamma] [Drawbacks] [Sensual desire] [Renunciation] [Happiness] [Teaching Dhamma]
Story: A gangster visits Ajahn Chah and begins to keep the precepts. [Crime] [Ajahn Chah] [Killing] [Five Precepts] [Stealing]
4. Explanation of the five lower fetters (SN 45.179). [Fetters ] // [Self-identity view] [Aggregates] [Attachment to precepts and practices] [Stream entry] [Once return] [Lay life] [Non-return]
5. Explanation of the five higher fetters (SN 45.180). [Fetters ] // [Craving for material existence] [Jhāna] [Craving for immaterial existence] [Formless attainments] [Conceit] [Self-identity view] [Knowing itself] [Restlessness and worry] [Ignorance]
6. “When an arahant passes, is there a process for that passing? Is there some description of it in the suttas?” [Arahant] [Death] [Sutta] // [Cessation] [Language] [Kamma]
Follow-up: “So there’s no advice to rest in meditation in the dying process?” [Meditation]
Response by Ajahn Pasanno: “Each moment should be a rehearsal of dying.” [Present moment awareness] [Recollection/Death] [Mindfulness]
Sutta: AN 6.19: Mindfulness of Death.
7. “You hear about the teachings about the different stages of enlightenment—these fetters going at these stages. When I first heard about it, it was kind of helpful, but it sounded so complicated. Luang Por [Sumedho] would teach that it is here and now, it’s right now, and that was so liberating. ... How can you use this talk of the fetters and different stages in a way that is helpful?” [Stages of awakening] [Fetters] [Ajahn Sumedho] [Liberation] // [Relinquishment] [Direct experience]
8. “Are the Pāli terms for anger and ill-will similar? With anger, you don’t necessarily wish harm on someone else, it just arises, and it’s involved with sakkāyadiṭṭhi ...” [Pāli] [Ill-will] [Aversion] [Self-identity view] // [Hindrances] [Stream entry] [Unwholesome Roots]
Follow-up: “Are there any suttas that say that a sotāpanna does not have anger and ill-will?” [Sutta] [Non-return]
Simile: SN 56.51: The amount of suffering that a sotāpanna relinquishes. [Suffering] [Similes]
9. “Because a sotāpanna is supposed to have finished sakkāyadiṭṭhi, does that mean that if they do any actions which involve [unskillful qualities], they don’t carry any kamma?” [Stream entry] [Self-identity view] [Unskillful qualities] [Kamma] [Volition] // [Habits] [Personality] [Virtue]
Sutta: SN 14.15: Caṅkama Sutta.
[Session] Readings from The Island by Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Amaro, Chapter 16, pp. 281-286:
Suttas: MN 118.9-12; SN 55.52; DN 18.1; SN 55.5; AN 4.240; Iti 76; SN 55.21.
1. [Considering the large numbers of lay disciples who the Buddha declared to have realized stages of awakening in DN 18.1] “I guess they were culturally more open to the path?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Amaro. [Lay life] [Stages of awakening] [Culture/India] // [History/Indian Buddhism] [Cultural context] [Buddha]
Sutta: DN 1: The 62 wrong views. [Views]
Sutta: DN 14.1.4: A fortunate aeon. [Previous Buddhas]
2. “Are once-returners always reborn in the human realm? ... So they have a long human life?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Amaro. [Once return] [Human]
Sutta: Ud 1.10: Bāhīya.
3. “Before arriving at [the noble] attainments, is it expected to exist and have a gradual progression of pāramis and come closer to stream entry?” [Stages of awakening] [Perfections] [Stream entry] // [Factors for stream entry] [History/Early Buddhism]
4. “If one cultivates certain pāramis during one’s lifetime, one can lose them in another lifetime?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Amaro. [Perfections] [Rebirth] [Impermanence] // [Aversion] [Clinging] [Fetters] [Stream entry] [Ajahn Chah]
Simile from Ajahn Chah: Tending a plant. [Naturalness] [Similes] [Stages of awakening]
5. Overview of the factors of stream entry: association with superior persons, hearing the true Dhamma, careful attention, and practice in accordance with the Dhamma. [Factors for stream entry] [Association with people of integrity] [Hearing the true Dhamma] [Appropriate attention] [Practicing in accordance with Dhamma] // [Pāli] [Translation]
6. Reflection: A stream enterer is someone who embodies the Noble Eightfold Path (SN 55.5). [Stream entry] [Eightfold Path]
7. Reflection by Ajahn Amaro and Ajahn Pasanno: Stream entry is a really good retirement plan. [Stream entry] [Purpose/meaning] [Retirement] // [Factors for stream entry] [Meditation] [Association with people of integrity] [Hearing the true Dhamma]
8. Reflection by Ajahn Amaro and Ajahn Pasanno: Our strongest habit is to practice Dhamma in accordance with self-view. [Habits] [Self-identity view] [Practicing in accordance with Dhamma] // [Factors for stream entry] [Dhamma]
Quote: “I am an unenlightened person who has got to do something now in order to become enlightened in the future.” — a wrong framework for practice pointed out by Ajahn Sumedho. Quoted by Ajahn Amaro. [Ajahn Sumedho] [Liberation]
Sutta: AN 3.40: Three traits that can predominate (adhipatteyya).
9. Reflection by Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Amaro: SN 55.21 indicates that the last mind-moment is not the primary determinant of rebirth. [Death] [Rebirth] // [Commentaries] [Skillful qualities] [Treasures] [Christianity]
Commentarial story: A monk is reborn as a maggot living on his robes. [Robes] [Clinging]
Story: Ajahn Chah declines to visit a dying villager. Told by Ajahn Pasanno. [Ajahn Chah] [Paul Breiter] [Fierce/direct teaching] [Heedlessness]
10. “The first part of the Highest Blessings chant (Snp 2.4; Amaravati Chanting Book, p. 46), ‘associating with the wise,’ is not sappurisa. Is it a synonym?” Answered by Ajahn Amaro and Ajahn Pasanno. [Association with people of integrity] [Pāli] [Verses]
11. AN 10.61 explains that not drawing close to good people is the root of ignorance. Teaching by Ajahn Amaro and Ajahn Pasanno. [Association with people of integrity ] [Ignorance] [Conditionality] // [Saṅgha] [Mutual lay/Saṅgha support]
1. “What distinguished Ajahn Chah from other meditation teachers?” [Teaching Dhamma] [Ajahn Chah] // [Meditation/Techniques] [Right View] [Monastic life]
Follow-up: “Did this inspire the way you teach?” [Ajahn Pasanno]
2. “How did Ajahn Chah react to students who had studied in other Buddhist traditions?” [Teaching Dhamma] [Spiritual traditions] [Ajahn Chah] // [Ajahn Sumedho] [Master Hsu Yun] [Hua tou] [Zen] [Right Effort]
3. “It is said that each monk who know Ajahn Chah well would describe him in a different way when asked. How would you describe him?” [Ajahn Pasanno] [Ajahn Chah] // [Personality] [Personal presence] [Compassion]
Quote: “You never quite knew which Ajahn Chah you were going to get, which always kept you on your toes. And if you weren’t on your toes, it wouldn’t take long before he would call you on it.” [Teaching Dhamma] [Clear comprehension]
4. “What advice would you give to future abbots and teachers of Wat Pah Pong branch monasteries so that the communities maintain the most important characteristics of Ajahn Chah’s style of leadership?” [Abbot] [Ajahn Chah monasteries] [Saṅgha] [Leadership ] [Ajahn Chah] // [Dhamma] [Vinaya] [Chanting] [Translation]
Sutta: DN 16.6: Dhamma-Vinaya is your leader.
Quote: “Ajahn Chah was conservative, but he wasn’t fundamentalist.” [Monastic life]
Story: The Dalai Lama asks the Abhayagiri monks to chant the Maṅgala Sutta (Snp 2.4, Amaravati Chanting Book, p. 46) in Pāli. [Dalai Lama] [Pāli]
Story: Ajahn Chah was one of the first forest monks to ban smoking in the monastery. [Smoking] [Lunar observance days]
Recollection: Ajahn Chah was unique in consulting with senior monks and laypeople when making decisions. [Saṅgha decision making]
5. “The word toramon is sometimes associated with Ajahn Chah’s style of training. Could he be ‘intentionally cruel?’” [Ajahn Chah] [Fierce/direct teaching ] // [Ascetic practices] [Teaching Dhamma] [Trust] [Compassion] [Saṃsāra] [Habits]
Quote: “Ajahn Chah was always willing to put obstructions in front of your desires, views and opinions, and habits, which was incredibly compassionate as well as courageous.” [Craving] [Views] [Courage] [Culture/West]
Story: Ajahn Chah lets a restless junior monk go tudong with devious stipulations. [Sequence of training] [Restlessness and worry] [Tudong]
6. “There are a few stories about Ajahn Chah having psychic powers, particularly reading minds. Did you ever observe anything of that sort with Ajahn Chah? What was Ajahn Chah’s position on such things?” [Psychic powers] [Ajahn Pasanno] [Ajahn Chah] // [Nature of mind]
Story: Ajahn Chah describes the supernatural beings at Wat Pah Pong to a close lay follower, then refuses to talk about other realms with a group from Bangkok. [Wat Pah Pong] [Non-human beings] [Teaching Dhamma]
7. “Were there any particular themes in Ajahn Chah’s teachings that regularly came up?” [Teaching Dhamma] [Ajahn Chah ] // [Virtue] [Right View] [Relinquishment] [Knowing itself]
8. “Many of Ajahn Chah’s direct disciples have become revered teachers themselves. Would you say the harsher conditions and more rigorous practices of the early days of Wat Pah Pong played a necessary role in their training and development or was it mostly due to Ajahn Chah being such a masterful teacher?” [Ajahn Chah lineage] [Ascetic practices] [Wat Pah Pong] [Teaching Dhamma] [Ajahn Chah] // [Humility] [Ajahn Mun] [Mae Chee]
Quote: “There’s this nostalgia for the good old days. ... To me it’s a fallacy or a fantasy.” [Suffering] [Poverty]
Quote: “To be able to lay a foundation that was carried on is really exceptional.” [Saṅgha] [Leadership]
9. “Can you speak about the connection Ajahn Chah had with Luang Por Tongrat and Luang Por Tongrat in general?” [Ajahn Tongrat ] [Ajahn Chah] // [Thai sects] [Ajahn Mun] [Monastic routine] [Almsround]
Reference: Ajahn Utane’s biography of Ajahn Tongrat. Ajahn Mudito translated this into Portuguese in 2019, and there is a machine translation from the Portuguese.
Quote: “Oh, Chah, you’ve come.” — Ajahn Tongrat’s first words to Ajahn Chah.
Story: Ajahn Tongrat makes a racket under Ajahn Mun’s kuti in order to provoke a Dhamma talk. [Ajahn Mahā Boowa] [Fierce/direct teaching]
Story: Ajahn Tongrat dies in the Dhamma seat. [Death]
10. “What would Ajahn Chah say if he visited our Western monasteries today in 2025? Would he recommend any changes?” [Western Ajahn Chah monasteries] [Ajahn Chah] // [Mutual lay/Saṅgha support] [History]
Quote: “Be careful about getting too comfortable.” [Heedlessness]
Suttas: SN 17: Be cautious about gain, honor, and fame. [Worldly Conditions] [Fierce/direct teaching]
11. “Could you tell us your very first encounter with Luang Por Chah? How did it happen? What did he say to you? What impression did you have then?” [Ajahn Pasanno] [Ajahn Chah] // [Temporary ordination] [Wat Pah Pong] [Culture/Natural environment] [Ajahn Sumedho]
Story: Ajahn Pasanno is impressed by handwritten notes about Ajahn Chah’s teaching by a visitor to Wat Pah Pong. [Wat Phleng Vipassanā]
Quote: “If you want to stay here, you have to stay at least five years.” — Ajahn Chah.
Quote: “The place itself [Wat Pah Pong] was a reflection of Ajahn Chah.” [Lay life] [Lunar observance days]
Story: The branch monasteries and lay community gather for Māgha Pūjā. [Festival days] [Ajahn Chah monasteries] [Community]
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