Tudong Stories at Spirit Rock
Ajahn Pasanno
Spirit Rock Daylong, Jun. 2, 2011
Spirit Rock Meditation Center in Woodacre, California
3 sessions, 35 excerpts, 2:13:48 total duration

Ajahn Pasanno offers stories of tudong (wandering pilgrimage) at a daylong event at Spirit Rock Meditation Center

External website

Session 1: The Purpose of Tudong

Session 2: Questions and Answers

Session 3: Tudong in Thailand


Session 1: The Purpose of Tudong – Ajahn Pasanno – Jun. 2, 2011 Download audio (57:16)
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1. [8:10] Story: Ajahn Pasanno attempts tudong in California. [Ajahn Pasanno] [Abhayagiri] // [Ageing] [Health]


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2. [12:07] Story: Ajahn Chah lets a restless junior monk go tudong in the hot season. [Ajahn Chah] [Restlessness and worry] [Sequence of training] [Culture/Natural environment]


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3. [16:47] Story: Ajahn Jotipālo’s tudong north along the Mississippi. [Ajahn Jotipālo] // [Robes] [Sickness] [Culture/West] [Almsfood]


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4. [20:30] Story: Ajahn Chah asks Ajahn Sumedho if he might go back to America as a monk. [Ajahn Chah] [Ajahn Sumedho] [Culture/West] [Monastic life] // [Almsfood] [History/Western Buddhist monasticism]

Quote: “You mean to say there are no kind people in America?” — Ajahn Chah to Ajahn Sumedho [Compassion]


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5. [26:15] Story: Ajahn Mun doesn’t spend consecutive rains retreats in the same place until his mid-70s. [Ajahn Mun] [Rains retreat] [Ageing] // [Stages of awakening] [Seclusion] [Teaching Dhamma]

Story: Saṅgha authorities appoint Ajahn Mun abbot of a monastery in Chiang Mai. He leaves before dawn the next day. [Abbot] [History/Thai Buddhism] [Saṅgha decision making]

Story: One million people attend the funeral of Ajahn Mahā Boowa. [Ajahn Mahā Boowa] [Funerals]


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6. [34:05] Story: Ajahn Kinaree walks to India over the course of 15 years in the 1920s and 30s. [Ajahn Kinaree] [Visiting holy sites]


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7. [37:49] Story: Ajahn Supah chooses tudong over further studies. [Ajahn Supah] [Culture/Thailand] [Study monks] [Learning] // [Liberation] [Goodwill] [Simplicity] [Virtue] [Recollection/Virtue]

Story: Ajahn Pasanno’s mother cries when she meets Ajahn Supah. [Ajahn Pasanno] [Faith] [Rapture]

Story: A python begins to eat Ajahn Supah. [Animal] [Determination]


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8. [48:15] Quote: “In the old days, tudong monks would show up at the monastery and ask about almsfood routes, toilets, and meetings. Now the first thing tudong monks ask is, ‘Is there a cell phone signal?’” — anonymous [Protocols] [Technology] [Culture/Thailand]


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9. [49:23] Quote: “Instead of going tudong, monks go taludong (through the forest).” — Ajahn Chah [Ajahn Chah] [Culture/Thailand] // [Environment] [Commerce/economics]


Session 2: Questions and Answers – Ajahn Pasanno – Jun. 2, 2011 Download audio (1:11:11)
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1. [0:26] “Did you walk from Mendocino?”


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2. [1:00] “What is the function of a layperson who accompanies a monk on tudong?” [Lay life] // [Sequence of training] [Abhayagiri] [Eight Precepts] [Culture/Thailand] [Ajahn Chah]

Quote: “People who ordain quickly disrobe quickly.” — Ajahn Chah [Ordination] [Disrobing]

Story: Founding of Pacific Hermitage. [Pacific Hermitage] [Almsround] [Almsfood]


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3. [8:07] Comment: Living on faith increases your potential anxiety level. I came to Buddhism thinking this would settle my life, but I realize that being open, aware, and sensitive to the world keeps bringing me new challenges. [Faith] [Restlessness and worry] [Everyday life] [Conscience and prudence]

Sutta: Dhp 244-245: Life is easy for for one without shame. [Conceit] [Virtue]

Response by Ajahn Pasanno: “You get more than what you bargained for.” [Happiness] [Culture/West] [Communal harmony] [Trust] [Concentration] [Ardency] [Energy] [Discernment] [Guilt/shame/inadequacy] [Right Effort]

Sutta: AN 11.1: Virtue leads to non-remorse and samādhi.


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4. [15:16] “Can the practice be used in a punitative or punishing way?” [Guilt/shame/inadequacy] // [Culture/West] [Habits] [Clear comprehension] [Craving not to become]

Quote: “Having a human mind...it’s amazing how perverse it can be sometimes.” [Human] [Unwholesome Roots]

Story: Ajahn Pasanno can’t translate guilt into Thai. [Ajahn Pasanno] [Translation] [Culture/Thailand] [Suffering]

Quote: “All you need to do is create a cage of mindfulness around [unskillful habits].” — Ajahn Chah [Ajahn Chah] [Sense restraint] [Mindfulness] [Unskillful qualities] [Similes]

Follow-up: “What about letting the tiger go instead of keeping it in a cage?”

Follow-up: “What about the case when one feels one is the tiger trapped in a metaphorical cage. How to escape?” [Liberation] [Perception] [Self-identity view] [Spiritual friendship]


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5. [24:35] “If sati or mindfulness is the cage, what is the use of samatha?” [Similes] [Mindfulness] [Calming meditation] [Concentration] [Unwholesome Roots] // [Tranquility] [Discernment] [Relinquishment]


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6. [27:59] “Could you tell of your personal experience with a tiger?” [Ajahn Pasanno] [Animal]

Story: Ajahn Pasanno hears and smells a tiger while doing walking meditation. [Dtao Dum] [Culture/Natural environment] [Posture/Walking] [Fear] [Death] [Impermanence] [Mindfulness] [Clear comprehension]

Sutta: MN 4: Fear and Dread


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7. [36:41] “Is there a distinction between the awareness and the naming? Does naming bring intellect or self into play? Is confusion the nagging sense of self or self-consciousness?” [Knowing itself] [Perception] [Noting] [Self-identity view] [Delusion] // [Investigation of states] [Proliferation] [Relinquishment] [Equanimity] [Doubt] [Mindfulness of body] [Continuity of mindfulness]


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8. [41:23] “In the trio of attraction, aversion, and confusion, what does confusion mean?” [Unwholesome Roots] [Delusion]


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9. [42:58] “I have an internal voice that’s concerned whether I’m doing it right; if I’m not doing it right, then I won’t get where I want to go. Is this delusion?” [Eightfold Path] [Perfectionism] [Delusion] // [Suffering] [Fear] [Mindfulness of body] [Volitional formations]


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10. [44:21] “For Lent, I practiced metta every day for six weeks for a person who I was very angry at. By the end of Lent, I was even more angry. Could you speak to this?” [Goodwill] [Aversion] [Christianity] // [Right Effort] [Discernment] [Unwholesome Roots] [Relinquishment] [Self-identity view] [Clinging]

Quote: “If the kilesa (defilements) come at you high, then you duck, and if they come at you low, then you jump over them.” — Ajahn Tongrat [Ajahn Tongrat]


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11. [49:53] “I’m curious about your pre-monastic life and specifically what led you to the monastic life.” [Ajahn Pasanno] [Monastic life/Motivation] // [Temporary ordination] [Ajahn Chah] [Wat Pah Pong]

Quote: “If you want to stay here, you have to stay at least five years.” — Ajahn Chah to Ajahn Pasanno [Sequence of training]


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12. [54:49] “If I saw you and the monks walking down the streets of Fairfax, I’m not sure I would know what to do. How should I approach you?” [Mutual lay/Saṅgha support] [Almsround] // [Almsbowl] [Almsfood] [Not handling money]


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13. [56:53] “To what extend is spreading the teachings part of the tudong tradition?” [Teaching Dhamma] // [Culture/Thailand]

Vinaya: Kd 1.23: Venerable Assaji’s demeanor inspires Sariputta. [Great disciples] [Perception of a samaṇa]

Story: Ajahn Pasanno goes tudong and is asked for lottery numbers. [Ajahn Pasanno]


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14. [1:01:07] “I travelled for six weeks in Thailand and India and found that time really shifted. Having been home about two months, even with a daily meditation practice, time speeds up. How is life at the monastery versus tudong, and what do you have to say to laypeople about the speeding up of time?” [Pace of life] [Culture/Thailand] [Culture/India] [Culture/West] [Everyday life] [Monastic life] // [Craving] [Devotional practice]


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15. [1:05:11] “Is it possible to visit the monastery?” [Gratitude] [Monasteries] [Abhayagiri] // [Mutual lay/Saṅgha support]


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16. [1:08:38] Meditation instructions: Walking meditation. [Posture/Walking] // [Abhayagiri]


Session 3: Tudong in Thailand – Ajahn Pasanno – Jun. 2, 2011 Download audio (39:57)
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1. [1:37] Story: Ajahn Chah’s first tudong. [Ajahn Chah] [Renunciation] [Spiritual search] [Simplicity]


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2. [4:15] Story: Ajahn Chah obsesses about getting robes. [Ajahn Chah] [Poverty] [Robes] [Greed] // [History/Thai Buddhism] [Determination] [Simplicity] [Craving] [Ajahn Kinaree]


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3. [11:04] Quote: “You fall down, you get up, you crawl along. ” — Ajahn Mahā Boowa [Ajahn Mahā Boowa] [Patience] [Practicing in accordance with Dhamma]


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4. [12:37] Story: Ajahn Chah struggles through lust with patience. [Ajahn Chah] [Sensual desire ] [Patience] // [Ajahn Pasanno] [Human] [Meditation/Techniques] [Impermanence]

Quote: Ajahn Chah to biographer: “If you don’t put that in the book, don’t bother printing it.” [Dhamma books]

Quote: “If you ordain as a monk, your defilements ordain with you.” [Monastic life] [Unwholesome Roots]


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5. [19:20] Quote: “You’re inspired, and you put forth effort. You’re depressed and fed up, and you put forth effort. You’re rested, and you put forth effort. You’re tired, and you put forth effort. ” — Ajahn Chah [Ajahn Chah] [Right Effort] [Ardency] [Faith] [Depression] [Sloth and torpor] // [Gladdening the mind]


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6. [21:51] Story: How Ajahn Pasanno became abbot of Wat Pah Nanachat. [Ajahn Pasanno] [Wat Pah Nanachat] [Abbot] // [Ajahn Chah] [Saṅgha decision making]


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7. [23:25] Story: Ajahn Pasanno’s tudong practice. [Ajahn Pasanno] [Seclusion] // [Meditation] [Sickness] [Ajahn Amaro] [Abhayagiri] [Patience]


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8. [25:52] Story: Ajahn Pasanno gets a foot infection on tudong. [Ajahn Pasanno] [Sickness] [Culture/Thailand] [Health care] // [Killing] [Goodwill]


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9. [29:44] Story: Ajahn Pasanno loses his vision on tudong. [Ajahn Pasanno] [Sickness] [Health care] // [Patience] [Seclusion] [Dtao Dum]


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10. [34:03] Quote: “It all comes back to that simple quality of mindfulness. From the mindfulness, then the different qualities of practice that we need to rely on are cultivated.” [Mindfulness] [Faculties] // [Concentration] [Thai] [Translation] [Discernment] [Perfections]

Quote: “The base and foundation is the mindfulness. Being the knowing is always the foundation, and then the mind is able to become still, become settled, become steady.” [Knowing itself]

Recollection: “It’s rare that Ajahn Chah would use [the Pāli term] pañña on its own. More often than not, he would use satipañña, which is mindfulness and wisdom together.” [Ajahn Chah] [Pāli]